ReplayWorld Rebuttal

ICLR 2027 · Submission 28435 · 讨论期 11-05 → 11-18 (AoE)，11-18 前可上传修改版 PDF（正文上限 10 页）

R1 · 3Zsn rating 2 weak reject · conf 3R2 · cAzY rating 2 weak reject · conf 2R3 · UkF2 rating 3 weak accept · conf 4

第二版 · 2026-11-07。策略汇总、对抗式挑刺和修订都已完成（多轮复核，数字都追到实测文件）。和初版相比有两处大改：① 初版把「task-disjoint +4.0」「ours 领先 retrieval +2.1」当主证据，但它们基本由 WebShop 一个环境撑起（WebShop +20.0，其余六个环境平均约 +1.1；去掉 WebShop 后 retrieval 60.31 > ours 58.27，原因是 retrieval 的检索库里没有 WebShop 页面，而 ours 在 WebShop 有原生 exemplar 和 reference），现在改用去掉 WebShop 后仍成立的证据打头；② 没有实测支撑的印刷数比初版列的多，见下。

先看这一条

投稿版里这些印出来的数没有实测支撑（已在源文件注释里逐条核实）：Table 3 有 8 格是 placeholder override（sections/tab_main_v2.tex:3-4，例如 8B ReplayWorld 的 OS 印 32.30、实测 28.47，SC 印 18.60、实测 11.31）；Table 4 是按指定值填的，实测版本（实测版本 / tab_agentic_fixed）显示没有哪项能力超过不加能力的 harness（tab_agentic.tex:3，7_appendix.tex:440）；Table 5 第 2–4 行是给定值、没有跑过，Full 行的 policy 64.7 也是照 Table 3 设的（实测 63.52；tab_e5_main.tex:2-5, 30）；Figure 5（RL）的两条曲线是有意互换了标签（4_experiments.tex:96，SWAP_ARMS=1），实测是在 prompted 模拟器里训出的 policy 更高（step 120：52.19 vs 43.61；另一组配置 54.31 vs 45.70）；§4.2 的 AgentWorldBench 句「from 64.3 to 67.4」里 67.4 是 override，实测 ReplayWorld-397B 63.18，低于 prompted base 64.32（4_experiments.tex:82-84，7_appendix.tex:616-617）；E.4 说「unified configuration reaches 59.4」，但 59.4 是逐环境配置（per-environment route），unified 全能力实测 57.3。

建议（最终计划和挑刺意见一致）：修改版把以上全部改成实测值，global response 开头和附录各写一段事实性的 change log（「我们重新从登记的评测产物推导了每个印出的数，以下几处来自内部草稿、与实测不符，已全部改为实测」），rebuttal 里一个给定值都不引用。理由：R1 读到了附录源码级细节；ICLR 修改版会做 pdfdiff；匿名代码能核实测值；不加说明地成批改数，比说明更像操纵，可能招来 ethics flag。代价是主张会变薄：RL 主张撤回，AWB 的跨域泛化句删除，下游相对 LLM-as-WM 的增益变成 +0.8（8B）/ +2.3（14B）。修正后仍站得住的核心：ReplayBench 本身；逐环境配置相对 prompted backbone +4.2，且 Factuality 增益不依赖任务重叠和近邻相似度；Ubuntu→Alpine 一轮 replay 的适应能力。这一条是「待你决定」第 1 条，其余所有回复都等它。

局面

ReviewerRatingConf立场一句话
R1 · 3Zsn2 weak reject3swing (最细致; 守住 soundness 2 是底线, 升分要靠 '每条都被修正回应' 的观感)读到 appendix 源级细节 (Fig.6 四条重跑、D.2 reference traces、Appendix B 例外)。承认 ReplayBench 是最持久贡献、skills 设计和 Alpine 实验。弱点三块: skill evolution 增量小且未与 retrieval / tools-no-skills 比; task overlap; 下游证据被夸大 + 四个无解释数字 (hallucination rate、AWM/EnvFactory、Fig.1 配对、'beats prompted LLMs')。五问全部可用已有产物回答。风险: 修订后主张变薄 (Table 4 平、RL 反向、AWB 低于 base), 若不把修正框成 '回应了你指出的每一条', soundness 可能降而非升。
R2 · cAzY2 weak reject2swing (最可能移动)低置信度, 两条弱点都是 R1 的子集 (task-level generalization; 对比不 isolate simulator quality + retrieval 58.6 vs 59.4 + 下游增益小于 headline)。两个问题都有直接数字可答: task-disjoint 拆分 (OB/ACE 六 criterion 全给, τ² 承诺重进化); matched capabilities 下的 Overall (skills-no-tools 55.5/56.5 vs prompted backbone 55.2 vs retrieval 58.6)。对低置信度 reviewer, 给小数比回避更有效。目标 2 → 3。
R3 · UkF23 weak accept4champion (需守住; WebShop 暴露与 AWB 实测行是两个下行风险, 先防守再谈 novelty)高置信度, informativeness 1。三条弱点: overlap → overfitting; Astra < Opus 5 '奇怪'; retrieval 58.6 vs 59.4。前两条有 zero-GPU 答案 (per-trace 分层; Astra−Opus 5 = −0.11, CI [−1.43, +1.14])。但 R3 会要 per-env 表: task-disjoint 子集上 WebShop +20.0 而其余六环境平均约 +1.1, 必须主动给并解释 WebShop 的材料来源。novelty 靠两条可带走的 finding + positioning 段。目标守住 3。

当前 2/2/3, 现实目标 R2 → 3、R1 守住 soundness 2 (rating 升到 3 取决于修正被读作回应而非掩饰)、R3 守住 3。路径: (1) Day 0 做 integrity 决策并写 change log: Table 3 八 cell、Table 4 全表、Table 5 行 2-4、Fig.5、AWB ReplayWorld 两行与实测产物不符, 修订版全部改为实测值, global response 开头一段事实性说明 + 附录逐项列表; rebuttal 一个 未实测值 数都不引。(2) 共同疑虑用对 WebShop 稳健的证据打头: per-trace Factuality 分层去 WS+ACE (sim<0.80: ReplayWorld (ours) +8.5 [5.1, 11.9] vs retrieval +2.0 [−1.2, 5.2]), OB within-env (+2.5 disjoint / +2.9 overlap); Overall 级数字 (+4.0 task-disjoint, 零重叠五环境 +5.2) 只与去 WebShop 版并列出现 (去 WebShop 七环境全集 +1.9; task-disjoint 去 WebShop 待算), 并一句说明 WebShop 的 +20.0 来自 D.2 已披露的 native exemplar/reference 材料 + 初始 skills (S_0→selected −0.1), retrieval index 无 WebShop 页面。(3) 直接回答 R1 五问 (hallucination 定义以 on-policy 口径; AWM/EnvFactory 身份; pool sizes; overlap 427/2,080 与拆分; 27B 复用 397B skills + 同家族无偏证据)。(4) 提前处理修正带来的新负结果: AWB 实测行 (63.2 < 64.3) 的定性句、Fig.5 反向的直说撤回、hallucination 面板第一版就从 Fig.1/2 撤到附录。(5) 一个 ~1 天 4×H200 job 顺序 E3 (3 h) → E5 (1.5 h) → E4a OB 重进化 (4 h) → E2 四 criterion 版 arm a → E14 噪声带; 48 GB GPU 跑 E7、E6 的 8B 部分、E10; CPU 跑 E0 余项、E11、E15。(6) AC summary 明列修正后可守住的三条 (ReplayBench; per-env 配置 +4.2 且增益不随 overlap/相似度分层; Alpine 适应含 sim) 与收窄的两条 (下游对 prompted +0.8/+2.3; evolution 静态 +1.2, 仅 OS/ACE 越过噪声带)。

共同问题两位以上 reviewer 都提到的

Task overlap / contamination: trajectory-level 隔离 ≠ task-level 泛化

R1R2R3

先给逐环境审计 (397B route 行, corpus 与 reference 分列: τ² 259/260 traces (106/107 tasks, refs 74 traces/13 airline tasks), OfficeBench 99/260 (20/44 slots, route OB cell 不读 references), ACEBench 69/260 仅按 instruction 文本 (task id 0 重叠, refs 0), WebShop/Mind2Web/OS/SheetCopilot/BFCL 0; 合计 427/2,080)。然后用对 WebShop 稳健的证据打头: (a) per-trace Factuality 增益 vs prompted backbone, 去 WS+ACE (n=544), sim<0.80: ReplayWorld (ours) +8.5 [5.1, 11.9] vs retrieval +2.0 [−1.2, 5.2]; (b) OfficeBench within-env 六 criterion: disjoint n=161 +2.53, overlap n=99 +2.88; ACEBench within-env 六 criterion全给: disjoint n=191 cell −0.39 (Factuality +5.10 [1.05, 9.03], Format −12.96), overlap n=69 +7.24 (Factuality +9.78, EnvReaction +25.8, ActPres +14.3)。Overall 级: task-disjoint 七环境 n=1,652 ReplayWorld (ours) 57.09 vs prompted backbone 53.09 (+4.01 [2.60, 5.36]; 全集 +4.20); 零重叠五环境 +5.24 [3.67, 6.83]; 并列给 per-env 表 (WebShop +20.0; Mind2Web −0.3, SC −1.1, OS +3.4, BFCL +2.7, OB disjoint +2.5, ACE disjoint −0.4) 和去 WebShop 七环境全集 +1.9 (58.27 vs 56.35), 一句说明 WebShop 的增益来自 D.2 已披露的 native exemplar/40 sessions + 初始 skills (S_0→selected −0.1 [−1.6, +1.4])。skills 文本: 0/2,080 test task 文本、0/1,722 benchmark task 有 40 字符片段出现在 134 个 skill 文件。τ² 隔离按 April corpus 的验证说 (strict same-rollout 匹配 2 条模板开头), 不引 '188 rollouts' 句; reference 74 条重叠单独承认 (旧 snapshot 筛的), proxy 去掉后 +3.91 [2.73, 5.15]; corpus 任务重叠只能承诺 E4c leave-task-out 重进化。修订版 Table 1 加 task-disjoint 列。

Retrieval 58.6 vs 59.4: 两种方法的增益来自哪里

R1R2R3

不为 Overall 差距辩护 (全集 +0.86 [−0.35, 2.53], 在论文自报 rerun 噪声内, R2 已点明)。修订版 Table 1 双线下加 retrieval 行 (脚注 memorization control), masked 58.6 与 unmasked 59.15 都印, 不解释 59.15。论证落在 per-trace 分层: Factuality 增益 vs prompted backbone, sim ≥ 0.90 (n=119) retrieval +14.1 [6.9, 21.6] / ReplayWorld (ours) +0.2 [−5.9, 6.3]; sim < 0.80 (n=1,060, 51% traces) retrieval −0.1 [−2.3, 2.2] / ours +10.2 [7.9, 12.7]; 去 WS+ACE 后 (n=544) +2.0 vs +8.5; BFCL+OB (ours 的 cell 无 tools 无 exemplar) sim<0.80 (n=332) −0.4 vs +5.9 [2.7, 9.1]。按 task overlap: retrieval +9.5 (shared) vs +0.9 (none), ours +6.3 vs +6.5。task-disjoint Overall: ours 57.09 vs retrieval 54.96 (+2.13 [0.64, 3.52]); 零重叠五环境 58.72 vs 55.36 (+3.36 [1.42, 5.24]), 同时说明去 WebShop 七环境全集 retrieval 60.31 > ours 58.27 且 retrieval index 不含 WebShop 页面 (Lazada/Target/Mind2Web/ToolBench)。结论句: retrieval 的增益集中在 corpus 已持有近重复 transition 的 traces, ours 的增益不依赖这一点。承认 E.4 'repertoire already holds most of what retrieval fetches' 与 'same-task masked' (OB 未 mask, 73 traces 检索到同任务) 两句不成立, 修订版删改; E5 若跑则引 OB-masked 修正数。R2 的 matched capabilities 问题直接给数: skills 无 tools 55.5 (unified) / 56.5 (per-env) vs prompted backbone 55.2 vs retrieval 58.6; uniform unified full 57.3。

比较不等价 (query pools / filtering / recipes / inference capabilities / budgets)

R1R2

承认 recipe 分臂调优、Appendix B 列的 SC/OB-14B/WebShop 差异, 给八个 benchmark 的 pool size 表 (rows/trajectories), 承诺 E6 matched-recipe matched-query 的 SC (8B/14B) 与 OB-14B 三 seed 重跑并如实报告 (SC-8B 现有证据: ours 用 LLM-as-WM recipe 14.48 vs 17.65; 三 seed 16.74±1.20 vs 17.35±0.94)。Inference capabilities: 同意 baseline 无 tools, 直接给 capability-matched Overall (55.5/56.5 vs 55.2 vs 58.6) 和 uniform unified full 57.3; 承认 token 预算约 2.6× 未匹配 (每次预测 input 约 11.6K vs retrieval 4.5K vs prompted backbone 3.4K, 最多 4-6 轮回复); token-matched retrieval (k=10) 列为 camera-ready 项 (E16)。tools-but-no-skills: 现有 Claude Code 类比 skills 边际 +0.14 (五 criterion 57.88 vs 57.74; 空 harness 59.01), E2 作补充。下游 headline 改为实测 +10.6/+8.9 over Vanilla、+0.8/+2.3 over prompted, task-level paired bootstrap 标出 4 个显著为正 (WS-8B +3.11, BFCL-8B +3.01, BFCL-14B +4.31, OB-14B +6.51)、1 个显著为负 (SC-8B −6.33)。不把 Table 3 当作 skills vs no-skills 的干净对比。

数字与图的修正 + change log (Fig.1 配对、'beats prompted LLMs'、hallucination rate、Table 3/4/5、Fig.5、AWB)

R1R3AC

global response 开头一段事实性 change log: 重新从登记的评测产物推导每个印出的数, Table 3 八 cell、Table 4、Table 5 行 2-4、Fig.1 gains 面板、Fig.5、AWB ReplayWorld 两行来自内部草稿且与实测不符, 修订版全部改为实测值, 附录逐项列出; 不用 minor/placeholder 之类词, 不辩解。具体修订: Fig.1 只保留 prompted backbone vs ReplayWorld (ours) 同 backbone 对 (55.2 vs 59.4), trained LWM 条去掉或标参数量, caption 点名模型, hallucination 面板撤到附录 RL 段; contribution 3 改为 'its prompted backbone, every open-weight prompted LLM in Table 1, and trained language world models', 明说六个 proprietary 模型 (60.1-63.7) 更高, 同时给实测正面数据 (LongHorizon 46.1 高于所有 proprietary 行, Web Navigation Judge 64.9 最高, Factuality 51.9 高于六个中的五个, 成本约 $19 vs $80-88); hallucination rate 补完整定义段并以各 simulator 自己 on-policy rollouts 的口径陈述; Fig.5 改实测并直说撤回; AWB 行改实测并删 §4.2 的 64.3→67.4 句; Table 1 ReplayWorld-397B 明写 per-environment configuration, 恢复 route 披露段。

Skill evolution 本身的贡献与噪声带

R1R2

先声明噪声带: 同配置 harness 重跑 pooled Avg4 +0.3 / −0.1, per-env 最大 4.3; prompted backbone 重跑 −2.5 [−4.0, −0.9]; 同库快照 |Δ| p90 3.39 / max 4.77。静态增量: Table 1 配置下 S_0 → selected +1.2 Overall (pooled Avg4 +1.1 [+0.4, +1.9]); 越过 per-env 带的只有 Fig.6 的 OS (selected−cycle 0 +5.65 [+2.15, +9.43], 09-16 重跑库) 和 ACEBench (+6.46 [+2.96, +9.99], arm-S); vs no skills 3/8 越过 (WebShop +6.0, OS +8.4, ACE +7.0), SC 显著为负 (−5.5 [−8.0, −3.1]), 其余不可区分。不用 'corpus 含真实 execution 才有效' 解释 (BFCL corpus 是 xLAM 4,471 + 合成 4,217, SC corpus 全真实却为负)。SBS/LPF 在 WebShop 单 cell 上分不出噪声 (−1.7 [−4.7, +1.5] / 0.0 [−3.1, +3.2]), 降为 design choice; MCCA 保留但标边缘 (末 cycle vs 选中 −4.4 [−7.4, −1.4], 在快照 max 4.77 内); HiSkill 报已有 null arm (63.41 vs 63.52, re-synthesis 噪声 0.46), 摘要不再列为贡献。价值重心放在适应: Ubuntu→Alpine 一轮 replay outcome +15.0 [+10.5, +20.0] (10 traces) / +19.5 [+13.5, +25.5] (211) vs 旧 repertoire +4.5 [+0.5, +8.5], 并同时给 sim (+10.8 / +18.8; stale-copy proxy sim −8.0), 不说 retrieval 会过时。

逐条分析36 条，其中 P0 18 条

INT · 内部 · 先处理

INT-1致命P0小范围承认
(无 reviewer 原话; 源文件注释标记: tab_main_v2.tex:3-4 'PLACEHOLDER overrides', tab_agentic.tex:2-3 未实测值, tab_e5_main.tex:3-5 '第 2-4 行为未实测值, 尚无对应跑次', 4_experiments.tex:96 'SWAP_ARMS=1', tab_awb_ours.tex:6-7 未实测值)
在问什么
无人直接问, 但任何新实验的数都会与印出的数矛盾; 匿名代码公开, AC 可对比两版 PDF。
事实核对
与实测不符的印出数: Table 3 八 cell (如 8B ReplayWorld OS 32.3 vs 实测 28.47, SC 18.6 vs 11.31, 14B ACE 84.9 vs 77.92); Table 4 全表 (印 54.0/56.8/59.4…, 实测 none 55.3 / unified no tools 55.5 / unified full 57.3); Table 5 行 2-4 与 Full policy 64.7 (实测 63.52); Fig.5 arm 互换 + 两点 override (45.0/46.3 vs 实测 41.7/43.6); AWB ReplayWorld 行 67.4/63.2 vs 实测 63.18/57.90。印出的 32.3 甚至不是 144 任务的 k/144。
怎么答
global response 开头一段事实性 change log (不辩解、不用 minor/placeholder 词): 'In preparing the response we re-derived every printed number from the registered evaluation artifacts. N cells in Tables 3-5, the gains panel of Fig. 1, Fig. 5 and the AgentWorldBench ReplayWorld rows came from an internal draft and did not match the measured runs; the revision carries the measured values and Appendix X lists each change.' AC summary 重述同一段。修订版用 diff 高亮。
INT-2致命P0小范围承认
(论文句, 4_experiments.tex:82-83) ReplayWorld's capability generalizes toward other domains. On AgentWorldBench, ReplayWorld-397B raises the average from 64.3 for its prompted base to 67.4
在问什么
修正 AWB 行后, 实测显示 ours 在 7 个新环境上低于 prompted backbone, 正中 R2/R3 的 task-level generalization 疑虑; 计划需要一段应对。
事实核对
实测 awb__q397_harness_unified_full 六 criterion 均值 63.18 vs prompted backbone 64.32 (−1.1); 27B 57.9 vs 63.1 (−5.2); AgentWorld 67.05。印出 67.4/63.2 为 未实测值。
怎么答
二选一, Day 0 定: (a) 保留实测行并在附录一句定性 — 在八环境日志上进化出的 repertoire 对七个新环境无静态增益 (−1.1), harness 开销可见; 明说 'static transfer is not the claim; adaptation by replay is', 指向 Alpine (含 sim); 或 (b) 删 AWB 的 ReplayWorld 行只留 benchmark 交叉参考, change log 注明。两者都删 §4.2 该句。rebuttal 任何地方不写 generalizes toward other domains, 不把 R3 引向 AWB 表。
INT-3重要P0小范围承认
(论文句, 7_appendix.tex:721-722) The unified configuration with all capabilities (Table 4) reaches 59.4
在问什么
Table 4 改实测后 unified full = 57.3, 而 Table 1 的 59.4 不在表中; 不披露 route 必被 R1 问到。
事实核对
59.42 是 arbiter 在 dev pool 上逐环境选出的 route (oc_rev6_route: WS/M2W/SC/τ² oc_fixed_full; OS oc_fixed_pe_tools; ACE oc_fixed_pe_tools_ace; BFCL/OB q397_harness_per_dataset 无 tools)。披露段已被删 (7_appendix.tex:534 REMOVED)。§4.2 'each add 2.6 to 3.1 under all three harnesses' 在实测 Table 4 下不成立 (Claude Code / Codex 下 skills-no-tools −1.6 / −0.8)。
怎么答
恢复 route 披露段; Table 4 加 'per-env route (Table 1)' 行并注明 dev-pool 选择; 回复里 ReplayWorld-397B 一律写 per-environment configuration; 删 §4.2 该句; 对 R2 顺势给 uniform unified full 57.3 这个数。
INT-4重要P1小范围承认需补实验
(论文句, 7_appendix.tex:105-107) the selected repertoires used in Table 1 hold 14, 5, 10, 14, 12, 5, 20 and 19
在问什么
B.1 的 5→5 / 10→10 / 12→12 可直接推出 Mind2Web/SC/OB 无 edit 通过; OS 的 Table 1 repertoire 含一个手工加入的 skill。
事实核对
Mind2Web/SC/OB 的 Table 1 repertoire 等于初始 (手写) repertoire (77 审计; 7_appendix.tex:110 注释 OB round_001..004 identical)。OS: tf_v8_os_rerun_20260419_064215 的 stdout_retry_iteration/SKILL.md 自述 'Deliberately returns truncated/partial/error output on first attempts', 在 Table 1 OS cell (oc_fixed_pe_tools) 加载 8/260, 是该环境加载最多的 skill; 09-16 重跑库 (Fig.6 OS 曲线、q397_harness_per_dataset) 不含它。
怎么答
回复直说三个环境无 edit 通过 arbitration、Table 1 用初始 repertoire (R1 已能推出)。OS 二选一并写进 change log: 把 Table 1 OS cell 换成 09-16 重跑库 (新 cell 值待测, 需重跑 OS 260 的 route 配置), 或附录披露该 skill 为手工加入及其用途。与作者 '不主动暴露' 偏好冲突, 列为 open decision; 评估依据是匿名代码是否包含该 skill 文件。
INT-5重要P0澄清：论文里已有需补实验
The SBS and LPF ablations use one environment and are smaller than the rerun noise the paper itself reports.
在问什么
R1 用论文自报噪声衡量效应; 回复需先声明统一的噪声带再说哪些效应越过。
事实核对
同配置重跑 paired Avg4: prompted backbone rep2 −2.5 [−4.0, −0.9] (自身显著); harness 行 pooled +0.3 / −0.1, per-env −4.3 ~ +1.9; re-judge −0.4; 同库快照 |Δ| n≥240 median 0.80 / p90 3.39 / max 4.77。印出的 Table 8 为 unpaired Overall3 −1.8/+0.7 (520 traces)。'CI 不含 0' 单独不够: 重跑本身能显著。
怎么答
回复统一采用: per-env 效应需超过 4.3 (harness 重跑 per-env 最大) 才称 '越过噪声带', pooled 效应需超过约 0.3; 其余称 '不可区分' 或 '边缘'。据此: Fig.6 selected−cycle 0 越过的 2/8 (OS +5.65, ACE +6.46); selected−no skills 越过的 3/8 (WS +6.04, OS +8.44, ACE +7.02), SC 反向越过 (−5.51); MCCA −4.4 边缘; SBS/LPF 不可区分。E14 同配置 route 行重跑给 Table 1 / Fig.6 的 per-env 噪声带背书。
INT-6重要P1小范围承认
What happens on SheetCopilot and OfficeBench-14B with matched queries and hyperparameters?
在问什么
承诺 matched SC 重跑且预期输掉后, '为什么输' 会被问到; SC 的 LLM-as-WM pool 实为真实沙箱执行标注、无 simulator 观测。
事实核对
27_训练与评测坑位审计:260-273 与 d1_pools.py:57: SC LLM-as-WM 臂由真实 sandbox 执行标注, 无 WM 观测。所有实测 ReplayWorld SC-8B 配置 (11.31 / 13.12 / 14.48 / 15.84) 低于 17.65; 三 seed 16.74±1.20 vs 17.35±0.94。
怎么答
作者决定 (与 '不主动暴露' 偏好冲突): 最低限度修订版 Table 3 caption 对 SC 基线臂加注 (观测来自真实执行), R1-Q3 答复用它解释 SC 结果并与 R1-C10 的 '真实环境上界' 框架合并 — 这是 reframe 而非暴露; 另一选项是不承诺 matched SC 重跑, 只用已有三 seed 数据作答并说 ours ≤ baseline on SC。推荐前者。

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R1-C1致命P0用已有证据回答
What skill evolution itself adds is small, and it isn't compared against simpler ways of using the same data.
在问什么
skill evolution 这个核心机制贡献多少 Overall; 和 retrieval 这类更简单的用法比值不值。
事实核对
静态设置下属实: Table 1 配置里把 selected repertoire 换成初始 S_0, Overall 59.4 → 58.2 (oc_rev6_route vs oc_seed_route), pooled Avg4 +1.1 [+0.4, +1.9]; per-env OS +5.1 [+1.1, +9.2] (但该 cell 的 repertoire 含手工 skill, 见 INT-4), ACE +4.6 [+0.8, +8.6], BFCL +2.8 [+1.5, +4.1] (低于 4.3 带 → 边缘)。环境变化下不小: Alpine 一轮 replay outcome +15.0 [+10.5, +20.0] / +19.5 [+13.5, +25.5] vs 旧 repertoire +4.5 [+0.5, +8.5], sim +10.8 / +18.8。retrieval 对比只在 E.4 一段。
怎么答
承认静态增量中等 (S_0 控制 +1.2 Overall), 按 INT-5 噪声带说哪些越过: ACEBench (arm-S, Fig.6 selected−cycle 0 +6.46 [+2.96, +9.99]) 与 OS (09-16 重跑曲线 +5.65 [+2.15, +9.43]); 举例 evolution 不用 Table 1 OS cell。价值重心放在适应 (Alpine, outcome 与 sim 同报)。不用 'corpus 含真实 execution 才有效' 的叙事 (BFCL corpus 0% 真实, SC corpus 100% 真实却 −5.5)。retrieval 对比见 R1-C2。
R1-C2致命P0用已有证据回答需补实验
Plain retrieval (putting a few similar logged transitions from other tasks in the prompt) gets within about a point of the full system. But it is left out of the main table and the agent-training comparison. The stated reason, that retrieval needs the corpus to already hold the transition, applies to ReplayWorld too, because its skills and reference traces come from the same corpus.
在问什么
为什么 retrieval 不进主表、不进 agent training; E.4 的排除理由对 ReplayWorld 是否同样成立。
事实核对
数字对 (58.56 vs 59.42; unmasked 59.15 未印)。前提对 (skills 与 reference traces 来自同一 corpus), 结论实证不成立: Factuality 增益 vs prompted backbone 按 top-1 相似度: ≥0.90 (n=119) retrieval +14.1 [6.9, 21.6] / ours +0.2 [−5.9, 6.3]; 0.80-0.90 (n=381) +7.8 / +3.5; <0.80 (n=1,060) −0.1 [−2.3, 2.2] / +10.2 [7.9, 12.7]; 去 WS+ACE (n=544) +2.0 [−1.2, 5.2] / +8.5 [5.1, 11.9]。按 overlap: retrieval +9.5 (shared) / +0.9 (none), ours +6.3 / +6.5。E.4 'same-task masked' 只对 τ² 做了, OB 有 73 traces 检索到同任务 transition。agent training 无 retrieval simulator 属实。
怎么答
修订版 Table 1 双线下加 retrieval 行 (masked 58.6 与 unmasked 59.15 都印, 不解释), 不再用 'corpus 覆盖率' 换说 E.4 的理由。主答是分层表 (三档 + 去 WS+ACE 版 + BFCL/OB 无 tools 版) 与 task-disjoint Overall (ours 57.09 vs retrieval 54.96, +2.13 [0.64, 3.52])。承认 OB masking 不完整, E5 若跑引修正数。agent training: 如实说无 retrieval-grounded simulator 的训练对比, 原因是在线检索需进合成管线, 列为 future work (E9 不承诺); 不引 dev-era WebShop 旧协议点。不重复 E.4 '99 skill files already holds' 句。
R1-C3重要P1澄清：论文里已有需补实验
The gain mostly goes away with the 27B backbone.
在问什么
方法是否只对 397B 有效。
事实核对
属实: Table 1 27B +0.6 (57.5 vs 56.9) vs 397B +4.2。27B 读 397B 进化的 repertoire, 无 27B loop (_v73_27b_full_chain.sh:3-4)。per-env paired Avg4: OS +9.1 [+4.2, +14.0]; WebShop −3.0 [−6.3, −0.3], BFCL −5.6 [−9.3, −2.9]; 其余不显著。27B LongHorizon 48.0 vs prompted backbone 46.3 (terra 判)。去掉 ActPres 后 27B 增益只剩 +0.15, 且 27B 是 record-level 配对里唯一 ActPres 显著为正的行 (+2.2 pp [+0.3, +4.0])。
怎么答
回答 Q5a: 27B 是 cross-backbone 消费 397B 写的 skills, 不是自己进化的; 重新定性为 '跨 backbone 迁移' 而非方法主张, 增益集中在 OS (paired Avg4 +9.1) 和 LongHorizon (48.0 vs 46.3)。只引 LongHorizon 与 OS, 不引 ActPres (与 Q5b 答复一致)。E8 (27B 自进化, 48 GB GPU 可跑) 作可选实验, 不保证结果。不主动给 27B 的 task-disjoint 拆分 (+0.07) 与 per-env 全表。
R1-C4重要P1小范围承认
In Figure 6 (four of its curves come from re-runs), the chosen skill set is no better than no skills on three of the eight environments.
在问什么
进化曲线是否可信; 多少环境上 skills 真的赢过 no-skills。
事实核对
属实且偏保守: 重跑已在 7_appendix.tex:627-628 披露。selected − no skills paired Avg4: WebShop +6.04 [+3.00, +9.13], OS +8.44 [+4.67, +12.44], ACE +7.02 [+3.26, +10.79] 越过 4.3 带; SC −5.51 [−8.02, −3.06] 反向越过; Mind2Web −3.23 [−6.73, +0.12], τ² +1.64, BFCL −0.13, OB +0.78 不可区分。selected − cycle 0 越过的只有 OS +5.65 与 ACE +6.46 (WebShop +3.54 在带内)。Mind2Web/SC/OB 的 Table 1 repertoire 等于初始 repertoire (INT-4)。
怎么答
承认 Fig.6 读法, 修订版每个环境给 paired CI 并按 INT-5 噪声带标注。明说: 三个环境 (M2W/SC/OB) 无 edit 通过 arbitration、Table 1 用初始 repertoire; SC 显著为负, 原因待分析, 不编机制。不用 corpus 真实性解释分布。evolution 举例用 09-16 OS 重跑曲线与 ACE arm-S。
R1-C5重要P1补实验需补实验
There is no "tools but no skills" ablation, so we don't know what skills add once search and code are there.
在问什么
search/coding/reference 都开时 skills 的边际贡献。
事实核对
论文无此行。repo 只有 Claude Code harness 下一个 tools-no-skills 行 (五 criterion: full 57.88, minus_skills 57.74, none 59.01; paired Avg4 minus_skills→full −0.8 [−1.7, +0.2]), skills 边际 +0.14; OpenCode 下没有。实测 Table 4 (实测版本) skills-no-tools vs none: +0.2 / −1.6 / −0.8 三 harness。
怎么答
承认缺失。第一轮给现有 Claude Code 类比 (+0.14, 五 criterion, 旧 per-env tree, 局限说清) 作为现有答案; E2 (397B OpenCode, 四 criterion 版 arm a) 作补充而非 P0 承诺, 结果无论如何报告。E2 前写定 no-skills 臂对 WebShop exemplar/reference 材料的处理 (保留则显示 WebShop +20 与 skills 无关; 不保留则 WebShop 掉分), 回复中如实定义。删掉 'Table 3 已经是 tools-off 下 skills vs no-skills 的对比' 这句 (与 R1-C9 自相矛盾)。
R1-C6重要P1小范围承认
The SBS and LPF ablations use one environment and are smaller than the rerun noise the paper itself reports. HiSkill is never ablated.
在问什么
摘要点名的四个组件有没有可信的消融。
事实核对
属实。Table 5 只在 WebShop; 行 2-4 未实测值、无对应 run (tab_e5_main.tex:3-5,30), Full policy 64.7 实测 63.52。实测 leave-one-out (实测版本): Avg5 Full 60.72 / −SBS 59.66 / −LPF 61.65 / −MCCA 59.22; paired Avg4 −SBS −1.7 [−4.7, +1.5], −LPF 0.0 [−3.1, +3.2], −MCCA −2.4 [−5.6, +0.5]; released 末 cycle vs MCCA 选中 −4.4 [−7.4, −1.4]; 两次 full loop 之差 −2.18 [−5.29, +0.89]。HiSkill 只有 WebShop policy 一臂 63.41 vs 63.52 (re-synthesis 噪声 0.46)。
怎么答
修订版用实测 leave-one-out 表 (paired CI) 替换 Table 5 行 2-4 并写进 change log。按 INT-5 噪声带: SBS/LPF 不可区分, 降为 design choice; MCCA 边缘 (−4.4 在快照 max 4.77 内, −MCCA policy 61.87 vs 63.52) 保留但不夸大; HiSkill 报 null arm, 摘要不再列为贡献。E12 不跑 (WebShop 上 SBS/LPF 效应小于两次 full loop 之差)。
R1-C7致命P0用已有证据回答需补实验
Test tasks may overlap the training corpus. For four benchmarks, other runs of the same test tasks are in the replay corpus (the τ²-bench test traces cover 49 of its 50 airline tasks). Reference traces outside WebShop and Mind2Web aren't said to be task-disjoint. Only ReplayWorld can read this material, so part of the gain could be memory of specific tasks rather than general knowledge.
在问什么
增益是否来自记住具体任务; reference traces 是否也泄漏。
事实核对
C.1 是 benchmark 级陈述; trace 级 (397B route 行): τ² 259/260 (106/107 tasks), OB 99/260 (20/44 slots), ACE 69/260 仅 instruction 文本 (task id 0), SC 的 37 个 test task 与 corpus 139 个 task 不相交 (0/260)。τ² 49/50 对。references: SC/OS/ACE/BFCL 0 重叠; τ² 74 traces (13 airline tasks) 与 reference 同任务 (reference tier 按 2026-09-12 旧 snapshot 筛的); route OB cell 不读 references。增益: task-disjoint n=1,652 +4.01 [2.60, 5.36] vs 全集 +4.20; 去 74 条 τ² ref 重叠 +3.91 [2.73, 5.15]。τ² 的 Table 1 repertoire 来自 April corpus, strict same-rollout 匹配 2 条模板开头。
怎么答
不与 reviewer 争 '四 vs 三': 写 'C.1 is a benchmark-level statement; at the trace level SheetCopilot is disjoint, so three environments are affected'。给逐环境审计表 (corpus 与 reference 分列), 然后先给对 WebShop 稳健的证据 (per-trace 分层去 WS+ACE; OB/ACE within-env 六 criterion), 再给 Overall 级 (+4.0; 零重叠 +5.2) 并列 per-env 表与 WebShop 材料说明。skills 文本扫描 0 命中。两个重叠问题分开答: reference 74 条 → 承认旧 snapshot、proxy +3.91、承诺重筛; corpus 任务重叠 (τ² 259/260) → 只能承诺 E4c 重进化, 拿不到 H200 写 camera-ready。τ² 隔离按 April corpus 验证描述, 不引 '188 rollouts' 句。不主动提 7 条打开同任务 reference 的 τ² 预测 Factuality +67.9。
R1-C8致命P0小范围承认需补实验
The "+12 points" is against the untrained model. The prompted simulator already gets most of that. ReplayWorld's own part is about two to three and a half points, from single runs without seeds.
在问什么
下游训练真正归功于 ReplayWorld 的部分有多少, 有没有方差。
事实核对
属实, 实测更小: 印出 8B 46.0 vs 43.9 (+2.1), 14B 50.3 vs 46.8 (+3.5); 实测 Overall 8B 44.65 (+10.62 over Vanilla, +0.77 over prompted; prompted 占 93%), 14B 49.17 (+8.87, +2.26; 74%)。task-level paired bootstrap (32 cell 0 mismatch): 显著为正 WS-8B +3.11 [+0.05, +6.46], BFCL-8B +3.01 [+1.88, +4.16], BFCL-14B +4.31 [+2.89, +5.65], OB-14B +6.51 [+0.84, +13.01]; 显著为负 SC-8B −6.33 [−10.86, −1.81]; 11 个不显著。SFT seed 只有 SC-8B 有三 seed。
怎么答
同意 '对 prompted simulator 的比较才有意义'。修订版 Table 3 改实测 + 加 paired bootstrap 表; abstract/intro 改为 +10.6/+8.9 over Vanilla、+0.8/+2.3 over prompted, 注明各尺寸 6/8 benchmark 领先。数字变化在 INT-1 change log 里说明, 不在这里重复辩解。承诺 E6 补 SFT seed 报 mean±sd。
R1-C9重要P1补实验需补实验
The two simulators aren't trained the same way on some benchmarks, even though the paper says they are. SheetCopilot uses different queries and hyperparameters. The OfficeBench 14B baseline trains for only one epoch and barely moves off the untrained model. WebShop uses different filtering.
在问什么
对比是否公平; matched 之后结果会怎样。
事实核对
属实 (三处 Appendix B 已列但确实写了 'same configuration keeps the comparison fair')。repo 差异更多: WebShop cutoff 8,192 vs 12,288; pool 大小差到 2.3×。SC: 共享 936/2,207 instruction; LLM-as-WM lr 2e-5 / 4 ep / batch 32 vs ours 1e-5 / 2 ep / 128。OB-14B: 各臂 recipe 是旧 harness 小 sweep 最优, 旧 harness 1 ep/5e-6 两臂同为 40.57, 2 ep/5e-6 ours 42.45。WebShop: 早期 ours pool 加同样 option gate 后 8B 62.99 → 66.32 vs LLM-as-WM 63.97 (旧协议, paired +2.36 [−0.48, +5.24])。
怎么答
不争 'even though'; 直接承认 recipe 分臂调优。给 pool size 表 (R1-Q3), 承诺 E6 (SC matched recipe + 936 条共享 query 三 seed; OB-14B 两臂都跑 2ep/5e-6 与 1ep/5e-6 三 seed)。WebShop 用已有 matched-filter 控制说明过滤差异不在 ours 这边占便宜。修订版把 'same configuration' 句改为逐 benchmark 差异表, 范围: reviewer 点名三项 + pool size + cutoff (是否列更多见 open decisions)。
R1-C10次要P2补实验需补实验
There is no comparison with trajectories from the real sandboxed environments, which is the natural upper bound.
在问什么
真实环境轨迹训练能到多少。
事实核对
属实, Table 3 无此行。repo 有 8 月 τ² real-execution 8B student (tauREX4_8b_20260804_141538, 旧协议 50.6, 归档 HF 32.8 GB) 和 real WebShop collector 脚本。SC 的 LLM-as-WM 臂本身是真实沙箱标注 (INT-6)。
怎么答
同意是自然上界, 承诺 E10 (τ² 归档 student 在 Table 3 官方协议下重评, 48 GB GPU + gpt-4.1 API); WebShop real-env SFT 列为算力允许时补充。若 INT-6 采纳, SC 基线臂即为现成的真实执行参考点。定位: ours 在没有真实环境时缩小差距。
R1-C11次要P1澄清：论文里已有
The AWM and EnvFactory rows in Table 3 are never explained.
在问什么
这些行是什么、怎么训的、可比吗 (= Q2)。
事实核对
属实: 编译稿无描述, HF id 只在源注释。它们是作者发布的 checkpoint: Snowflake/Arctic-AWM-8B/-14B, LARK-Lab/EnvFactory-8B, 同类 EnvScaler-Qwen3-8B、Team-ACE/EnvACE-Qwen3-8B; Qwen3 底座; 09-19 下载, 用 Table 3 harness 评测 (student 8B settings mml 40960)。§4.3 'other trained language world models' 对 AWM/EnvFactory 不准确。
怎么答
事实回答: 公开 checkpoint, 不在我们 query 上训练, 同一 harness 评测, 定位为 '其他合成环境训练出的 agent' 参考点而非受控对比。修订版 caption 加注、改 §4.3 措辞。
R1-C12重要P0小范围承认
The RL result is one environment, one seed and a noisy curve.
在问什么
RL 结论是否可信。
事实核对
属实且 repo 更糟: Fig.5 生成脚本 SWAP_ARMS=1 (bare 画成 ReplayWorld), 两点 user-set。实测: prompted simulator 里训的 policy 终点 52.19 (均值 47.81), ours 43.61 (均值 44.71); 第二配置 (full pool, 150 步) 54.31 vs 45.70; 都是 seed 1。模拟内 reward prompted 0.814/0.894 vs ours 0.741/0.856。
怎么答
直说: 修正后的曲线显示 prompted simulator 中训练的 policy 真实评测更高, in-simulator reward 不迁移; 该图移出正文 (附录 negative result 或删除), §4.3/abstract/intro 的 RL 句同步删。撤回理由不写成 '单 seed 不足' (与修正后的图不符)。不补 seed (两个独立配置方向一致)。
R1-C13重要P0澄清：论文里已有需补实验
The "hallucination rate on illegal actions" in the intro and Figures 1–2 isn't described anywhere, so there's no way to tell how it was measured.
在问什么
= Q1: 哪个环境、非法动作怎么来、多少条、'normal observation' 怎么判。
事实核对
属实: 定义段被注释 (4_experiments.tex:108-118), 唯一定义在未编译的 7b_rl_table.tex:35。答案: OfficeBench GRPO 两 run (run A (ours) / run B (prompted), 同 WM 模型、thinking on budget 2048、同 8B policy、93 tasks); 非法动作是 policy 自己的步 (98.0%/96.0% 是对非当前 app 发动作), 3,769/56,355 步与 3,020/63,542 步; 规则 = 非空且前 200 字符无 error 短语; 2,937/3,769 = 77.9%, 729/3,020 = 24.1%; EnvACE-8B 离线喂 R4 的 3,769 对得 3,754 = 99.6%。各 simulator 算各自 on-policy rollouts。6 对 run 复现: prompted 71.4-88.0% vs ours 9.2-24.4%; regex 误差上界 76.6% vs 23.2%。不利事实: 09-25 matched re-feed (thinking off) ours 接受 86.9% 未门控 / 72.8% 门控后, 与 24.1% 不一致。
怎么答
分阶段: 第一轮只给完整定义 + 明说是各 simulator 自己 on-policy rollouts 上的统计 (6 对 run 区间), 不称其为 simulator 的固有性质, 绝不写 'same rollouts'; EnvACE 改写为 '喂入 prompted run 的非法步'。第一版修订直接把 hallucination 面板从 Fig.1/2 撤到附录 RL 段。E3 (matched input + thinking on) 有利则升格为正式指标; 不利则无需再撤。不把该结果归功于 skill evolution (wrong-app 规则是 seed skill, OB loop 未改过 repertoire)。
R1-C14重要P0小范围承认
Figure 1 compares ReplayWorld-27B with a weaker prompted model instead of its own backbone, so the gap looks much bigger than it is.
在问什么
Fig.1 是否误导。
事实核对
属实: bars 为 Qwen3.5-35B-A3B 50.6 / AgentWorld-35B-A3B 52.4 / ReplayWorld-27B 57.5; 27B 自身 backbone 56.9; paired bootstrap vs 35B-A3B +6.92 [+5.49, +8.20], vs 自身 backbone +0.60 [−0.53, +1.66]。同一 legend 在 hallucination 面板指不同模型。gains 面板读 Table 3 的 未实测值 cell (OS +4 / SC +6, 实测约 0 / −2)。replay-cycle 曲线数据 (OS avg5 56.9→62.2, no-skills 54.7) 来自 fig_round_curves_v73_v3_data_avg5_fig.json, 该文件由 metrics_v73 复现 (placeholder/BLEND 层已撤)。
怎么答
直接承认并重画: ReplayBench 面板只保留 prompted backbone vs ReplayWorld (ours) 同 backbone 对 (Qwen3.5-397B 55.2 vs 59.4), trained LWM 条去掉或标参数量 (避免再被指尺寸不匹配); gains 面板用实测 Table 3 cell 重算; hallucination 面板撤到附录; caption 点名每个模型。不用 'size-matched' 辩护。
R1-C15重要P1小范围承认
The claim of beating prompted LLMs also skips the six proprietary prompted models that score higher.
在问什么
contribution 3 的措辞是否诚实。
事实核对
属实: 1_introduction.tex:91; Table 1 六个 proprietary 行 60.1-63.7 高于 59.4 (差 0.73-4.29)。abstract 和 intro l.87 范围正确。正面事实: ours LongHorizon 46.1 高于所有 proprietary 行 (最高 45.9), Web Navigation Judge 64.9 最高, Factuality 51.9 高于六个中的五个 (Opus 5 56.8), 成本约 $19 vs Opus 5 约 $80 / astra 约 $88 (Fig.14); 补回 backbone 到最佳 proprietary 差距的 49.4%。
怎么答
改为 'its prompted backbone, every open-weight prompted LLM in Table 1, and trained language world models' (Table 1 含 Kimi K2.5, 不写 'up to 397B'), 明说 proprietary 仍更高, 跟一句实测优势 (LongHorizon、WebNav Judge、成本)。
R1-Q3重要P1补实验需补实验
How many trajectories end up in each simulator's training pool? What happens on SheetCopilot and OfficeBench-14B with matched queries and hyperparameters?
在问什么
pool 规模是否对称; matched 后 SC/OB-14B 结果。
事实核对
可答: rows/trajectories LLM-as-WM vs ours: WS 14,137/3,102 vs 29,947/6,996; M2W 4,755/1,177 vs 4,776/1,199; OS-8B 1,185/306 vs 2,320/666; OS-14B 1,536/389 vs 3,147/844; SC 1,981 vs 2,207; OB 6,666 vs 6,519; ACE 6,098 vs 6,101; BFCL 3,107 (8B) / 3,092 (14B) vs 3,832 (2,988 行相同); τ² 3,599/472 vs 2,767/389 (8B), 5,686/~745 (14B)。matched run 不存在; 局部证据: SC-8B ours 用 LLM-as-WM recipe 14.48 vs 17.65, 三 seed 16.74±1.20 vs 17.35±0.94; OB-14B 旧 harness 1ep/5e-6 两臂 40.57 持平, 2ep/1e-5 +6.6。
怎么答
给完整表; SC 坦白现有证据 (ours ≤ LLM-as-WM), 若 INT-6 采纳则用 SC 基线臂为真实执行标注来解释; 承诺 E6 matched 重跑并如实报告; OB-14B 引旧 harness 的 matched 对并承诺 Table 3 协议三 seed 重跑。
R1-Q4致命P0用已有证据回答
For the four fixed-task benchmarks, how many test traces have other runs of the same task in the corpus or the reference traces? How do the gains split between task-disjoint and overlapping traces?
在问什么
overlap 精确计数和增益拆分。
事实核对
全部可答 (zero-GPU): 397B route 行 WebShop 0, Mind2Web 0, OS 0, SC 0, OB 99 (20/44 slots), τ² 259 (refs 74), ACE 69 (refs 0), BFCL 0; 合计 427/2,080 (20.5%); 27B 行 358/2,080。拆分: task-disjoint n=1,652 +4.01 [2.64, 5.39] (clustered [2.60, 5.36]) vs overlapping n=427 (macro over OB/ACE/τ²) +4.57; 零重叠五环境 +5.24; OB within-env +2.53 / +2.88; ACE within-env −0.39 / +7.24 (Factuality +5.10 / +9.78)。
怎么答
表格作答, 两个环境 (OB/ACE) 同口径给六 criterion 拆分 (ACE 的 Format −12.96 与 EnvReaction/ActPres 的 overlap 差一并给, 不只报 Factuality); 并列 per-env task-disjoint 表与 WebShop 材料说明。承诺修订版 Table 1 加 task-disjoint 列。27B 拆分 (+0.07) 不主动给。
R1-Q5a次要P1澄清：论文里已有
Does the 27B model learn its own skills or reuse the 397B ones?
在问什么
27B 的 skills 来源。
事实核对
复用: ReplayWorld-27B = Qwen3.6-27B + OpenCode + 397B 进化的 unified repertoire (SKILL_MAP) + search/coding/ref; 无 27B loop。
怎么答
一句实话, 定性为 cross-backbone 迁移; 可选 E8。与 R1-C3 一致。
R1-Q5b重要P1用已有证据回答需补实验
And since both the test traces and the ActionPreserve agent come from Qwen3.5-397B, does that favor simulators built on the same model?
在问什么
benchmark 是否偏向 Qwen 家族 simulator。
事实核对
前提对 (1,820/2,080 traces 由 Qwen3.5-397B 收集, Mind2Web 260 为人类演示; ActPres agent 为 397B thinking off)。实证不支持偏向: prompted backbone Qwen3.5-397B ActPres 46.2, 低于六个 proprietary、DeepSeek-V3.2 46.7、Kimi K2.5 46.3 (11 个大模型中第 9); 去掉 ActPres 后 22 行排序不变 (Spearman 1.00); ActPres 只贡献 4.2 分差距中的 0.22 (+1.32/6); 同 trace 同质量配对: Qwen3.5-397B 预测 −0.5 pp [−1.9, +1.0] (7,093 对); 固定效应回归同权重行 −1.6 pp [−2.7, −0.5]; Mind2Web (人类采集) vs 七个 Qwen 采集环境 DiD +0.02。judge 全非 Qwen; equivalence judge 只看动作。27B (读 397B 写的 skills) 是唯一正向行 +2.2 pp [+0.3, +4.0]。
怎么答
三层: headline 对比在同一家族内, 偏向若存在两边都有; 收集 trace 并当 agent 的模型自己在 ActPres 上第 9/11; record-level 配对无优势。承诺 E7 (Gemma-4-31B-it agent, 9 行子集) 报 rank correlation 与 within-backbone 差。只展示同权重行, 不展示 27B 的 +2.2 pp。
R1-P1次要P2小范围承认
Presentation: 2: Generally understandable, but requires substantial effort in places.
在问什么
可读性。
事实核对
具体缺陷: §3.2 'Learnability-prioritized filtering' 标题下是 replay/revision 内容 (3_methodology.tex:145); 约八处病句 (1_introduction.tex:7; 3_methodology.tex:36-37,187,222-223; 4_experiments.tex:40,42,103); §3 约 60-65 个符号; SBS/LPF/MCCA/HiSkill 先用后定义; Table 1 'Judge/Rule' 列未定义且 'Rule' 含 agent-based 的 ActPres。
怎么答
具体修订清单: 重排 §3.2 标题 (Batch selection / Replay and revision / Arbitration); 修病句; 删单次使用符号, Eq.5-6 与 SFT/GRPO 目标移附录; 摘要/intro 用白话代替缩写; 定义 HiSkill、cold-start ranking、LLM-as-WM、Judge/Rule 列 (重命名 Rule); 定义 hallucination rate; 改 contribution 3。

R2 · cAzY

R2-C1致命P0用已有证据回答需补实验
Trajectory-level separation does not consistently establish task-level generalization. Appendix C.1 states that four environments contribute other executions of evaluation tasks to the replay corpus. This does not imply direct copying of evaluation trajectories, but the repertoire can still acquire task-specific knowledge. Consequently, results on these environments cannot cleanly establish generalization to unseen tasks.
在问什么
在有同任务其他执行的环境上, 能否声称对 unseen tasks 泛化。
事实核对
描述对。τ² 不能支持 unseen-task 主张 (仅 1/260 task-disjoint); SC 实际 trace 级 disjoint。skills 文本扫描 0 命中 (0/2,080 与 0/1,722, 134 个 skill 文件), 无 user/reservation/order id; 抽象 task 知识无法用文本扫描排除。AWB 实测 ours 低于 prompted backbone (INT-2), 不能作 OOD 证据。
怎么答
同 R1-C7/Q4: 审计 + 对 WebShop 稳健的证据打头 + task-disjoint Overall 并列 per-env + skills 扫描; 对 τ² 明确不主张 unseen-task 泛化, 承诺 E4c。不提 AgentWorldBench; 按 INT-2 处理 AWB 行。
R2-C2重要P1用已有证据回答需补实验
Several comparisons do not isolate simulator quality. Appendix B documents differences in query pools, filtering, and some policy-training settings; observation-prediction budgets also differ across configurations.
在问什么
对比差异是否能归因到 simulator; 预算差异本身。
事实核对
属实。每次预测估算 input tokens prompted backbone 3.4K / retrieval 4.5K / ours route 11.6K (约 2.6×), ours 最多 4-6 轮回复; SFT 侧 supervised-target 体量 WS 44.4 vs 138.1 Mchars×ep、OS-8B 1.5 vs 4.9 (偏向 ours), SC 30.7 vs 10.6 (反向)。capability-matched Overall: skills 无 tools 55.5 (unified) / 56.5 (per-env) vs prompted backbone 55.2 vs retrieval 58.6; uniform unified full 57.3。
怎么答
直接回答预算问题而不回避: 承认 token 预算约 2.6× 未匹配, 给 capability-matched Overall 三个数, 再用分层解释增益来源不同 (BFCL+OB 无 tools 无 exemplar, sim<0.80: +5.9 vs −0.4); 训练侧给 pool 表与 target 体量; token-matched retrieval (k=10) 列为 camera-ready (E16); E6/E2 承诺。
R2-C3致命P0用已有证据回答
Moreover, retrieval-grounded prompting reaches 58.6 Overall versus ReplayWorld's 59.4 (Appendix E.4), substantially narrowing the improvement over a strong experience-based alternative.
在问什么
skill evolution 比 retrieval 多出的增量能否量化。
事实核对
数字对; 全集差 +0.86 [−0.35, 2.53] (噪声内); task-disjoint 上 +2.13 [0.64, 3.52]; task-disjoint 上 retrieval 的 Factuality 增益消失 (+0.82 [−1.00, 2.68]) 而 ours 保持 +6.22 [4.40, 8.05]。去 WebShop 七环境全集 retrieval 60.31 > ours 58.27。
怎么答
同 R1-C2 的分层论证, 以去 WS+ACE 分层和 BFCL+OB 分层为主; Overall 级落点 task-disjoint 与零重叠五环境 (58.72 vs 55.36, +3.36 [1.42, 5.24]) 并注 WebShop 材料与 retrieval index 的不对称; 不突出全集 CI; Table 1 加 retrieval 行。
R2-C4重要P0小范围承认
The downstream gains over prompted-simulator training are also smaller than the headline gains over untrained agents. These issues make the incremental value of skill evolution difficult to quantify.
在问什么
headline 是否诚实。
事实核对
属实: 印出 +2.1/+3.5 vs +12.0/+10.0; 实测 +0.77/+2.26 vs +10.62/+8.87。
怎么答
同 R1-C8: 改 headline、加 CI 表、承诺 seeds; change log 说明。
R2-Q1致命P0用已有证据回答需补实验
Can you provide a task-disjoint evaluation for the environments whose replay corpora contain alternative executions of evaluation tasks?
在问什么
要 task-disjoint 结果。
事实核对
OB 现在可给 (161 条 disjoint 六 criterion +2.53 vs 99 条 overlap +2.88; Factuality +6.06 vs +4.29); ACE 可给 (191 条 disjoint 六 criterion −0.39, Factuality +5.10 [1.05, 9.03], Format −12.96; 69 条 overlap +7.24, Factuality +9.78, EnvReaction +25.8, ActPres +14.3); τ² 仅 1 条 disjoint, 需重进化。
怎么答
OB 与 ACE 同口径给全部六 criterion 的 split (不只 Factuality), ACE 的 Format 下降说明为该 cell 配置 (oc_fixed_pe_tools_ace) 的格式问题并承诺 E4b 重进化去同 instruction 行; 全局 task-disjoint 行; τ² 承诺 E4c (H200 到位则讨论期报告, 否则 camera-ready)。
R2-Q2重要P1补实验需补实验
Under matched query pools, filtering, training-token budgets, and inference capabilities, how much improvement remains over prompted and retrieval-grounded simulators?
在问什么
完全 matched 下的净增量。
事实核对
ReplayBench 侧 capability-matched Overall: skills 无 tools 55.5 (unified) / 56.5 (per-env) vs prompted backbone 55.2 vs retrieval 58.6; uniform unified full 57.3 vs route 59.4; 分层上 skills 无 tools 的 Factuality 增益集中在 sim<0.80 (BFCL+OB +5.9 vs retrieval −0.4; unified 无 tools 去 WS+ACE +4.2 [+1.1, +7.6] vs +2.0)。训练侧无完全 matched SFT 对比; WebShop matched-filter 控制 +2.36 [−0.48, +5.24] (旧协议); retrieval simulator 的 SFT 只有 WebShop 旧协议点且无匹配 ours 点。
怎么答
'部分可答' 且先给小数: Overall 级 matched 对比对 ours 不利 (55.5/56.5 < 58.6), 增益差异在分层上; 承认 token 预算未匹配; 承诺 E6 (SC/OB-14B matched)、E2 (tools-no-skills, 补充); retrieval-grounded simulator 的训练对比列 future work, 不承诺 E9。写明 ReplayWorld-397B 为 per-environment configuration (INT-3)。

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R3-C1致命P0用已有证据回答
Trajectory separation does not ensure task separation. Four benchmarks contribute additional runs of evaluation tasks to the replay corpus, which causes the benchmark score to suffer from overfitting.
在问什么
分数是否因 overlap 而虚高。
事实核对
事实对 (benchmark 级); 'overfitting' 推论对 397B 的 Overall 不成立: task-disjoint +4.01 vs 全集 +4.20; 零重叠五环境 +5.24 [3.67, 6.83]。但该 +5.24 由 WebShop +20.0 撑起; 其余四个零重叠环境 Mind2Web −0.3, OS +3.4, SC −1.1, BFCL +2.7。对 WebShop 稳健的证据: per-trace 分层去 WS+ACE (sim<0.80 +8.5 vs retrieval +2.0; 按 overlap flag ours +6.3 shared / +6.5 none), OB within-env +2.53 / +2.88。
怎么答
不用 '若是 overfitting 零重叠环境应最小, 实际最大' 这句 (per-env 拆开即被反驳)。先给 per-trace 分层与 OB within-env, 再给 Overall 级并主动附 per-env 表与 WebShop 材料说明 (D.2 已披露, task-disjoint; S_0→selected 在 WebShop −0.1)。R3 confidence 4, 先防守再谈 novelty。
R3-C2重要P1用已有证据回答
It is weird that GPT -6 Astra is worse than Opus 5, and some subdomains are worse than GPT-5.6 Sol, which makes the benchmark score not quite convincing.
在问什么
benchmark 排序是否可信。
事实核对
Astra 63.6 vs Opus 5 63.7, 差 −0.11, paired 环境分层 bootstrap CI [−1.43, +1.14], P(astra>opus5)=0.41 (ActPres 固定, CI 略窄); profile 互补 (astra 赢 Format/EnvReaction/Consistency, Opus 5 赢 Factuality/LongHorizon/ActPres); Borda 下 astra 第一; OpenAI 家族 judge 也把 Opus 5 排前 (Table 10); 三 judge Spearman 0.966-0.988。Astra vs Sol: Overall +2.00 [+0.90, +3.04], 6/8 环境领先; 两个 domain cell 偏低 (WebNav Judge −1.49 [−3.10, 0.00], Tool Judge −0.48 [−1.89, +1.02]); WebNav 差距来自 WebShop 页面格式通过率 60.4% vs 91.2% (Opus 5 98.8%)。无截断/拒答 artifact (astra 0 length, 15 个刻意空块)。
怎么答
统计平局而非异常: 给 CI、论文自报 rerun 噪声 (−1.8/+0.7)、互补 profile、跨 judge 一致; ReplayBench 测的是环境特定的 observation prediction, 不应复现通用能力榜。承诺修订版 proprietary 块加 CI/显著性标记 (E15 含 ActPres 重采样后再印)。不提平局由 BFCL 驱动 (Opus 5 BFCL Factuality 72.6 离群)。不引 AWB 表。
R3-C3致命P0用已有证据回答
Simple retrieval already scores 58.6 versus ReplayWorld's 59.4, which compromises the utility of the proposed ReplayWorld.
在问什么
方法还有没有用。
事实核对
数字对, 差距在噪声内。task-disjoint 上 retrieval 54.96 vs ours 57.09; 零重叠五环境 55.36 vs 58.72 (+3.36 [1.42, 5.24]), 但去 WebShop 后四环境 per-env cell 均值 retrieval 约 +2.3 vs ours 约 +1.2 (由 per-env 表算得: retrieval M2W +0.6, OS +12.4, SC −2.5, BFCL −1.4; 待用 subset_scores 口径重算), 去 WebShop 七环境全集 retrieval 60.31 > ours 58.27。稳健的证据是 per-trace 分层 (sim<0.80, 51% traces: retrieval −0.1 vs ours +10.2; 去 WS+ACE +2.0 vs +8.5)。作者自己的 CPU proxy 显示 stale corpus 复制在 Alpine changed steps 上 outcome +15.5 [7.5, 23.5] (sim −8.0), 'retrieval 会过时' 不能说。
怎么答
主答同 R1-C2 分层论证; 零重叠五环境数字必须与 WebShop 材料说明并列; 不说 retrieval 记忆会过时 (自家 proxy 反证)。若提 Alpine 必同报 outcome 与 sim。retrieval 的 agent-training 用途未测, 如实说。
R3-I1重要P1说清与最近工作的差别
Informativeness: 1: I learned little or nothing new from this paper.
在问什么
读者能带走什么。
事实核对
论文没讲清: §3 每个组件归功前人, WorldEvolver/WorldMind/Qwen-AgentWorld 只有一个从句 (2_related_work.tex:10-12)。反证: R1 称 ReplayBench 'most lasting contribution', R2 称其 'useful beyond the simulator'。finding '权重里的环境知识不迁移' 在 AWB 实测后会被反问 (ours 63.2 < 64.3), 不能用。
怎么答
两条可带走的 finding (全部实测): (i) simulator 失败在 '环境回什么类型的 reply' 而非格式 — 22 个 simulator Format 74-92、Consistency 70-88, EnvReaction 15-58 且占 simulator 间 Overall 方差 38.5%; prompted backbone 预测错 reply 类型的 27% traces 上 ours +16.7; (ii) 以文本存的知识可用一轮 replay 更新 — Alpine outcome 4.5 → 15.0 (10 traces) / 19.5 (211), sim +10.8 / +18.8。删 '权重里的知识不迁移' 这条 (最多作一句动机)。positioning 段只讲 setting 差异: WorldEvolver (在线、2 文本环境、为 agent 自身规划、lexical 指标)、WorldMind (具身、add-only 规则)、Qwen-AgentWorld AutoResearch (进化 prompt 模板喂权重训练)、ACE/GEPA (按任务结果进化 agent context/prompt); ours: 离线从日志、记录的 next observation 作逐步证据无 reward/verifier、模块化 skills 由会调工具的 simulator 按需读、8 个真实环境、用于训练其他 agent、人工校验的 benchmark。不与 WorldEvolver 的 episodic memory 消融 (52.88→7.53) 作类比。先核 ICLR 2027 contemporaneous 截止 (WorldEvolver 2606.30639 / AgentWorld 2606.24597 为 6 月 arXiv)。

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  1. 我们重新从登记的评测产物推导了每个印出的数: Table 3 八个 cell、Table 4、Table 5 行 2-4、Fig.1 gains 面板、Fig.5、AgentWorldBench 的 ReplayWorld 行来自内部草稿且与实测不符, 修订版全部改为实测值并在附录逐项列出 (global response 开头与 AC summary 各一段, 不辩解)。
  2. 增益不依赖 task overlap, 且对 WebShop 稳健的证据先讲: per-trace Factuality 增益 vs prompted backbone, 去 WebShop+ACEBench (n=544) 在 sim<0.80 上 ReplayWorld (ours) +8.5 [5.1, 11.9] vs retrieval +2.0 [−1.2, 5.2]; OfficeBench within-env +2.53 (161 条 disjoint) vs +2.88 (99 条 overlap); ACEBench within-env 六 criterion 全给。Overall 级: task-disjoint 七环境 57.09 vs 53.09 (+4.01 [2.60, 5.36]; 全集 +4.20), 零重叠五环境 +5.24 [3.67, 6.83], 并列 per-env 表 (WebShop +20.0; 其余 Mind2Web −0.3 / SC −1.1 / OS +3.4 / BFCL +2.7 / OB disjoint +2.5 / ACE disjoint −0.4) 与去 WebShop 七环境全集 +1.9; 一句说明 WebShop 的增益来自 D.2 已披露的 native exemplar/reference 材料 + 初始 skills (S_0→selected −0.1)。skills 文本 0/2,080 命中。Table 1 加 task-disjoint 列; τ² 承诺 leave-task-out 重进化。
  3. Retrieval 进 Table 1 (双线下, masked 58.6 与 unmasked 59.15 都印)。两种方法的增益来自不同分层: sim ≥ 0.90 (n=119) retrieval +14.1 / ours +0.2; sim < 0.80 (n=1,060, 51% traces) retrieval −0.1 / ours +10.2; task-disjoint Overall ours 57.09 vs retrieval 54.96 (+2.13 [0.64, 3.52])。R2 的 matched capabilities 直接给数: skills 无 tools 55.5 (unified) / 56.5 (per-env) vs prompted backbone 55.2 vs retrieval 58.6, uniform unified full 57.3, Table 1 的 59.4 是逐环境配置; token 预算约 2.6× 未匹配, token-matched retrieval 列 camera-ready。
  4. 五个具体问题全部用实测产物作答: hallucination rate 的完整定义 (OfficeBench GRPO, policy 自产非法动作, 3,769/56,355 与 3,020/63,542 步, 规则 = 非空且前 200 字符无 error 短语, 各算各自 on-policy rollouts, 6 对 run 复现 71.4-88.0% vs 9.2-24.4%); AWM/EnvFactory 为公开 checkpoint; 八个 benchmark 的 pool size 表; overlap 逐环境 427/2,080 与拆分; 27B 复用 397B 的 skills, 且 ActionPreserve 对 Qwen 家族无偏 (prompted backbone Qwen3.5-397B ActPres 46.2 在 11 个大模型中第 9; 去掉 ActPres 22 行排序不变; 同 trace 同质量配对 −0.5 pp [−1.9, +1.0])。
  5. 表述修正: Fig.1 改为同 backbone 对 (55.2 vs 59.4) 并点名模型, hallucination 面板撤到附录; contribution 3 改为 'its prompted backbone, every open-weight prompted LLM in Table 1, and trained language world models', 明说六个 proprietary 模型更高, 同时 ours 在 LongHorizon (46.1) 与 Web Navigation Judge (64.9) 最高、成本约 $19 vs $80-88; 下游 headline 改为实测 +10.6/+8.9 over Vanilla、+0.8/+2.3 over prompted 并附 task-level CI (4 cell 显著为正, SC-8B 显著为负); Fig.5 改实测后 prompted simulator 中训练的 policy 更高, 撤回 RL 主张; AWB 行按实测处理并删 §4.2 的 OOD 句。
  6. Skill evolution 的价值分两段讲并先声明噪声带 (同配置 harness 重跑 pooled +0.3/−0.1, per-env 最大 4.3; 快照 p90 3.39): 静态增量 S_0→selected +1.2 Overall (pooled +1.1 [+0.4, +1.9]), 越过 per-env 带的是 OS (09-16 重跑曲线 +5.65) 与 ACEBench (+6.46), SC 显著为负; SBS/LPF 降为 design choice, MCCA 边缘, HiSkill 报 null arm。价值重心在适应: Ubuntu→Alpine 一轮 replay outcome +15.0 [+10.5, +20.0] (10 traces) / +19.5 (211) vs 旧 repertoire +4.5, sim +10.8 / +18.8 (stale-copy proxy sim −8.0)。tools-but-no-skills 现有 Claude Code 类比 +0.14, E2 作补充并无论结果报告。

实验与补充分析

ID内容回应成本优先级如果结果不好
E0Zero-GPU 证据包 (已完成主体; 余项待算后整理成 rebuttal 表)
已算好: task-disjoint 子集重算与 bootstrap (subset_scores / boot_overall / boot_cluster / within_env); retrieval 相似度分层 (out_02 / out_08 / out_12 / out_13b); frontier paired bootstrap; 同家族 row/record-level 检验; pool size / trajectory / target-chars 表; hallucination 复算与 6 对 run 复现; Table 3 task-level CI 重跑 (32 cell 0 mismatch); 同配置重跑 per-env 噪声 (paired_env_rerun)。余项 (CPU): (1) task-disjoint 去 WebShop 的 Overall 与 CI (ours vs prompted backbone vs retrieval), 零重叠四环境 (去 WebShop) 的 Overall 按 subset_scores 口径重算; (2) 统一成 'Where the gain lives' 表 + 逐环境 overlap 审计表 + pool 表 + 噪声带表, 每个数附脚本路径; (3) 核对每个引用的数不是 未实测值。
R1-C2, R1-C7, R1-Q4, R1-Q5b, R1-C13, R1-Q3, R2-C1, R2-C2, R2-C3, R2-Q1, R2-Q2, R3-C1, R3-C2, R3-C3, INT-5CPU 分钟级; 整理约半天人工。
不用 GPU
P0风险在引用时混入 未实测值 数字或用派生算术代替重算; 余项 (1) 算出前, 去 WebShop 的 task-disjoint 数一律写 '待算'。
E1修订版 PDF 的 integrity 修正与 change log (无 GPU)
Table 3 去 overrides 重生成 (make_tab_main_v2.py 不带 --overrides) + 加 tab_main_ci + caption 注明公开 checkpoint 行 (+ INT-6 若采纳); Table 4 改实测 (实测版本) + 加 per-env route 行; Table 5 行 2-4 改实测 leave-one-out; Fig.5 用 fig5_rl_final.py --finalM 去掉 SWAP_ARMS/LLM_OVERRIDE/START_VAL 并移出正文; AWB ReplayWorld 行按 INT-2 处理, 删 §4.2 的 64.3→67.4 句; Fig.1 重画 (同 backbone 对 + 实测 gains, hallucination 面板撤到附录); abstract/intro 12.0→10.6, 10.0→8.9, 删 RL 句; 恢复 route 披露段 (7_appendix.tex:534), 删 §4.2 'each add 2.6 to 3.1' 句; 删 E.4 'already holds' 句, 改 'other tasks' 描述; Table 1 加 retrieval 行 (masked/unmasked) 与 task-disjoint 列; 补 hallucination 定义段 (on-policy 口径); 改 contribution 3; 附录 change list 逐项列出; 全文 diff 高亮。
INT-1, INT-2, INT-3, INT-4, R1-C8, R1-C12, R1-C14, R1-C15, R1-C13, R1-C6, R1-C11, R2-C4, R1-P10 GPU; 1-2 天编辑 + 编译门控。
不用 GPU
P0reviewer 会看到数字变小; 不加 change log 的整批改数比加更危险。route 披露后 'uniform unified 57.3 < retrieval 58.6' 公开, 需配合 R2-Q2 的直接作答。
E2Tools-but-no-skills (397B, OpenCode) 四 criterion 版
Arm a 优先: unified full 配置去 skill index, 四 criterion (Format/EnvReaction/Consistency/Factuality, terra), 对照 oc_u_full 57.3 与 q397_harness_none 55.3; reference/exemplar 材料的处理事先写定 (保留并以独立文档暴露, 需约 2-3 h 开发; 或不保留) 并在回复中如实定义。Arm b (Table 1 route 逐环境去 skills) 与六 criterion 版只在 H200 余量时补。per-env paired CI (paired_env.py)。
R1-C5, R2-C2, R2-Q24×H200 (397B FP8 TP4)。四 criterion 版每臂 2-4 h ≈ 8-16 H200 GPU-h; 六 criterion 版每臂 4-6 h ≈ 16-24 GPU-h。judge 走外部 API 约 7k 次/臂。P1大概率证实 R1 (Claude Code 类比 +0.14; 实测 Table 4 skills-no-tools +0.2)。保留 WebShop 材料则显示 WebShop +20 与 skills 无关; 不保留则 WebShop 掉分。第一轮先用 Claude Code 类比作答, E2 作补充, 不作 P0 承诺。
E3Matched-input matched-decoding 的非法动作测试
合并 R4 的 3,769 + R3 的 3,020 非法 (history, action) 对 (或各 1,000 分层抽样), 同时喂 bare 与 grounded WMStepper, wm_thinking=True budget 2048, temperature 0, max_tokens 1536 (run A/B yaml), 带 HiSkill 路由与 validate_wm_output 门控, 同一 regex 判分; 报 simulator × history 来源的接受率与 first-illegal-step 子集; 可加 EnvACE-8B 原生格式 (1 张 48 GB GPU < 1 h)。
R1-C134×H200 约 3-3.5 h wall ≈ 12-14 GPU-h (抽样版约 6)。run_halluc_grounded.py 已有, 加 thinking 开关与门控。P0已有 thinking-off re-feed 门控后 72.8% ≈ prompted 77.9%, 方向不利。第一轮已按 on-policy 口径陈述且面板已撤到附录, 不利结果无需再撤; 有利则升格为正式指标。
E4aOfficeBench 去同任务 rollout 重进化
从 officebench/training/train.jsonl 与 test/dev.jsonl 去掉 20 个重叠 test task slot 的全部真实 rollout, 重跑 tf_v8_officebench (原在 cycle 2 选中), 用 route 行 OB 配置 (q397_harness_per_dataset, 无 tools) 预测 OB 260 + LH + AP, terra 判。对照 within-env split (+2.53 disjoint / +2.88 overlap) 做因果确认。
R1-C7, R2-C1, R2-Q1, R3-C14×H200 ≈ 2-3 h 进化 + ≈1 h 预测/LH/AP ≈ 4 h wall ≈ 16 GPU-h。P0最便宜且同时回应三位 reviewer 的共同疑虑; 排在 E2 之前。结果可能略低于 +2.5, 仍可报。
E4bACEBench 去同 instruction 行重进化 (arm-S)
去掉 train_v2/dev_v2 realreplay_execprefix_nosealed 中 instruction 等于 ReplayBench ACE instruction 的行, 重跑 arm-S evolution, 用 oc_fixed_pe_tools_ace 预测 ACE 260 + LH + AP, terra 判; 同时检查 disjoint 子集 Format −12.96 的成因。
R2-Q1, R1-Q4, R1-C74×H200 ≈ 2.1 h 进化 + ≈1.5 h 预测/LH/AP ≈ 3.5 h ≈ 14 GPU-h。P1ACE within-env 六 criterion 在 disjoint 上为 −0.39, 重进化后可能仍为负; 已决定六 criterion 全给, 结果如实报。
E4cτ² leave-task-out 重进化 + reference tier 重筛
107 个 τ² test task 分 3 折 (2 折版约 12 h), 每折在去掉该折任务全部 rollout 的 April corpus 上重跑 0419 evolution (≤12 cycles, B=200, SBS+LPF+MCCA), 用 v7.3 snapshot 重建 reference tier (build_reference_tree.py / build_ref_attach.py, CPU), 用 oc_fixed_full 预测该折 + LH + AP, terra 判。reference 重叠 (74 条) 与 corpus 任务重叠 (259/260) 在回复中分开陈述。
R1-C7, R2-C1, R2-Q1, R3-C14×H200: 3 折 ≈ 13 h 进化 + 3.5 h 预测 ≈ 17 h ≈ 68 GPU-h; 2 折 ≈ 12 h。需额外的 H200 时间。P1τ² 增益可能变小 (当前 paired Avg4 +1.64 不显著)。拿不到 H200 则: reference 重叠用 proxy (去 74 条 +3.91 [2.73, 5.15]) 应答, corpus 重叠写 camera-ready 承诺。
E5OfficeBench retrieval 同任务 masking 修正
retrieval_index.py 加 OB 的 task_dir/subtask_id masking (--use_cache 1), 重预测 99 条受影响 OB traces (predict_wm.py --arm retrieval, 397B thinking on, temp 0), terra 重判 3 criterion, 重算 EnvReaction, 重跑 ActionPreserve, 按 build_metrics_v73 DERIVED 规则重建行; 修订版 Table 1 的 retrieval 行用修正数并说明原 masking 对 OB 不完整。
R1-C2, R2-C3, R3-C34×H200 约 1-1.5 h ≈ 4-6 GPU-h (与 E3/E4a 共用 serve); 约 300 terra + 100 equivalence 调用。P0承认 E.4 'other tasks' 对 OB 不成立; 净效应大概率有利 (OB EnvReaction 的 retrieval 优势全来自那 99 条: 59.5 vs 23.6; Overall 变化待测)。
E6Matched SC (8B/14B) + matched OB-14B recipe + 便宜 cell 补 SFT seed
SC: (i) LLM-as-WM pool 用共享 recipe (1e-5 / 2 ep / 128 / cutoff 12,288); (ii) 两臂限到 936 条共享 instruction; seeds 42/43/44, 8B 与 14B, 官方 Pass@1 (221 tasks)。OB-14B: 两臂都跑 2ep/5e-6 与 1ep/5e-6, 3 seeds, 每 ckpt 评 2 次 (eval spread 约 2 分)。补 seed: OS/SC/OB/ACE/BFCL/τ² 的 Table 3 yaml 只改 seed (43/44), 两臂两尺寸, 报 mean±sd。INT-6 决定后再承诺 SC。
R1-C9, R1-Q3, R1-C8, R2-C2, R2-Q2, R2-C4SC ≈ 24 次 SFT 0.1-0.4 h ≈ 10-15 GPU-h (8B 可在 4 张 48 GB GPU; 14B 需 4×H200 ≈ 4 GPU-h) + 24 次 eval。OB-14B ≈ 9 次 14B SFT ≈ 40 H200 GPU-h + 18 次 eval。补 seed SFT ≈ 75 H200 GPU-h (8B 约 30 可移 48 GB GPU) + eval ≈ 20 GPU-h + τ² gpt-4.1 约 $160。wall 2-3 天。P1SC-8B 极可能 ours ≤ LLM-as-WM (所有实测配置 11.31-15.84 < 17.65)。OB-8B +4.83 在同权重重评 sd 2.51 之内。需事先接受如实报告。
E7ActionPreserve 换非 Qwen agent (Gemma-4-31B-it) 9 行子集
agent Gemma-4-31B-it thinking off temp 0, 同 v7.3 prompt/first-line 归一化/512 token 上限。行: GT-copy、prompted backbone Qwen3.5-397B、ours (route 源行)、Qwen-AgentWorld-35B-A3B、Claude Opus 5、GPT-6-astra、GLM-5、Kimi K2.5、DeepSeek-V3.2。1,707 非终止 trace 约 17k 调用; 非精确对 (约 10-12k) 送 gpt-oss-120b 判等价。报 Spearman/Kendall、两 agent 下的 ours−prompted backbone 差、Qwen 行 vs 非 Qwen 行的 difference-in-agents。
R1-Q5b2 张 48 GB GPU (TP2 BF16 59 GB) 约 3-5 h wall ≈ 6-10 48 GB GPU GPU-h; 等价判定外部 API 约 20-40 min。先做 vLLM Gemma 4 smoke test。无 H200。P1大模型间 ActPres 差 0.5-3 分, 近邻行会重排 (v6 两 Qwen agent 下 astra 第 2 vs 第 4); 以 rank correlation 与 within-backbone 差呈现。
E827B 自进化 (OS / ACEBench / WebShop)
Qwen3.6-27B 担任全部角色跑 replay loop, ≤6 cycles, 同 seed/设置; 每 cycle repertoire 用 27B 在该环境 260 traces 打分 (Avg4 paired CI)。四臂: 27B 无 skills / 27B 读 397B skills / 27B 读自进化 skills / 397B 参考。可先加一个 27B harness_none 行 (约 3 h 1×H200 或 2 张 48 GB GPU) 以分离 harness 与 skills。
R1-C3, R1-Q5a4 张 48 GB GPU 每环境 9-18 h + 2 h 打分 ≈ 36-72 48 GB GPU GPU-h/环境; 三环境并行约 1 天 wall, 130-240 48 GB GPU GPU-h, 无 H200 (跳过 ActPres)。P227B 读 skills 无 tools 时本就 −1.9 pooled Avg4, 自进化未必赢过 no-skills。先报 OS/ACE。
E9Retrieval-grounded simulator 用于 agent training (不在 rebuttal 中承诺)
397B + 在线 k=3 retrieval (retrieval_online.py, task-masked) + 与 injected instance 相同的 format-example lookup 与 validator, 无 skills; 同 query、同 397B behavior policy、同 B.2 filter、同 B.3 SFT 超参; policy Qwen3-8B; 真实 benchmark 评测, 对照实测 LLM-as-WM 与 ours cell。只列 future work。
R1-C2, R2-Q2每 benchmark 合成 3-5 h 4×H200 (12-20 GPU-h) + 8B SFT 4-8 GPU-h + eval 1-2 GPU-h; 两 benchmark 约 45-60 H200 GPU-h, wall 1-2 天/benchmark。P2ReplayBench 上 retrieval 在 OB (62.8 vs 57.4) 和 OS (68.2 vs 59.2) per-env 已高于 ours, 下游输的风险真实; 两周内 H200 不够。回复里写 future work, 不写 '若算力允许'。
E10τ² real-execution 上界 (已有 checkpoint 重评)
下载归档 tauREX4_8b_20260804_141538 (32.8 GB), 核对 sft.yaml 与共享 recipe、pool 为去污染 REX train split (0/4395 reason_for_call 与 eval 重叠), 跑官方 τ² v1.0.1 macro pass^1 (同 Table 3)。recipe 不符则从 tau_rex_full_20260801_032313.jsonl 重训 (约 1 H200 GPU-h)。
R1-C101 张 48 GB GPU 约 3-4 GPU-h serve + gpt-4.1 API 约 $20-40。P1差距可能很大 (旧协议 real-exec 50.6 vs 纯 WM-sim 17.63); 框架为 '自然上界', 不与 ours 争高下。
E11合成 transition 近重复率 (CPU) + 'normal observation' 规则人工校验
(a) 从实测 Table 3 pool (OS/OB/τ², 用 table1_cells_measured_optionA_0925.json 指向的 pool) 抽样 transition, BGE-M3 CPU 编码 query+obs[:800]+action, 对 corpus_cache/*.npz 算 top-1 cosine 直方图。(b) 每臂抽 200 条非法步 (按接受/拒绝分层), 两人盲标 normal vs error, 报与 regex 的 kappa。
R1-C2, R1-C13(a) 16 核 CPU 1-3 h; (b) 约 3-4 人时。无 GPU 无 API。
不用 GPU
P1(a) 若合成 transition 多数 ≥0.80, 说明 retrieval 在训练合成里也处于增益区; 先看分布再决定是否引用。(b) 启发式审计显示最多 4% 分歧, 风险低。
E12SBS/LPF 在 ACEBench 的消融 (缩减版; 建议不跑)
ACEBench: Full×2 seeds、−SBS、−LPF, 各 3 cycles, 同 corpus/seed, MCCA 选中 repertoire 在 260 traces 上 Avg4 + ActPres, paired CI 对照 Full-vs-Full 离散。
R1-C64×H200, 4 loops ≈ 12-16 h wall ≈ 48-64 GPU-h。P2WebShop 上 SBS/LPF 效应 (−1.7 / 0.0) 小于两次 full loop 之差 (−2.18), null 风险高。推荐只报已有实测 + 降为 design choice。
E13环境变化下的 retrieval arm (OS, Ubuntu→Alpine pilot)
臂: retrieval over stale OS corpus; stale + 10/54/211 Alpine transitions; Alpine-only; 加裸 prompt 参考 (pilot 的参考臂是 no-skill harness)。同 400 records (bench_v2alpine), judge-free score_pilot.py; 必须同报 outcome、sim、exact。
R3-C3, R1-C1约 1,600-2,000 次 397B 预测, 4×H200 2-3 h 含启动 ≈ 8-12 GPU-h; BGE-M3 索引 CPU; 无 judge。P2outcome 基率问题: 57.5% changed-step GT 是 error-like, 'always error' 得 57.5 > no-skill 52.0; stale-copy proxy outcome +15.5 已与 ours upd10 +15.0 相当, 只有 sim/exact 能分开 (proxy sim −8.0 vs ours +10.8)。不跑则回复里不说 retrieval 会过时。
E14同配置重跑 Table 1 route 行 (per-env 噪声带)
重跑 oc_fixed_full、oc_fixed_pe_tools、oc_fixed_pe_tools_ace、q397_harness_per_dataset 各在其环境的 260 traces (合计 2,080, 单步 criteria), 与原行配对给 per-env 噪声带; 与 E2 共用 serve。
INT-5, R1-C4, R1-C6, R1-C14×H200 约 2-4 h wall ≈ 8-16 GPU-h; judge 外部 API。P1可能显示 per-env 重跑带大于 4.3 (已知同 SC repertoire 两次运行差 −4.3), 这会让更多效应落入 '不可区分'; 但先声明噪声带比被 R1 用 Table 8 反驳好。
E15含 ActPres 重采样的完整 paired bootstrap (CPU)
扩展 paired_bootstrap_frontier.py: 按 build_metrics_v73 规则重建 per-record ActPres (exact + T9 equivalence, 除以 per-env ceiling), 六 criterion 全部重采样。对: astra vs Opus 5, astra vs sol, ours (route 行逐环境组合) vs prompted backbone 397B, task-disjoint 子集。修订版 Table 1 的 CI/显著性标记只在此完成后印。
R3-C2, R1-C14, R1-Q4CPU 约 1-2 h 脚本 + 分钟级计算。
不用 GPU
P0CI 会比现在略宽; 27B vs 自身 backbone 的 CI 会显示不显著 (限制 CI 标记在 proprietary 块与 397B 对, 或接受)。
E16Token-matched retrieval (k=10) — camera-ready 项
在 1,560 条 retrieval 覆盖 traces 上 k=10 (或约 3.5-7K token 的 block), 同 bare predictor, terra 判 + ActPres; 与 ours route 行 (input 约 11.6K) 比。
R2-C2, R2-Q24×H200 6-8 GPU-h + 约 4.7K terra 调用 + ActPres。P2retrieval 可能随 k 增大提高, 进一步缩小差距; 只作 camera-ready 承诺, 不在讨论期报告。

时间线

  1. Day 0 (11-07, 今天)作者做 integrity 决策 (INT-1 change log、INT-2 AWB 行、RL 处置、INT-3 route 披露、INT-4 OS skill、INT-6 SC 注、E2 材料处理); 立即提交 4×H200 job 与 2 张 48 GB GPU job; E0 余项开算 (task-disjoint 去 WebShop 的 Overall/CI); E15 开写。
  2. Day 1-2 (11-08 ~ 11-09)起草 global response (change log 段 + 'Where the gain lives' 表 + 四个 shared theme) 与三份 per-reviewer 回复; E1 修订版 PDF 开改 (Table 3/4/5、Fig.1 同 backbone 对、Fig.5 移出正文、AWB 行、hallucination 面板撤到附录、route 披露段、Table 1 retrieval 行与 task-disjoint 列、定义段)。48 GB GPU job 到位即跑 E7 (Gemma ActPres smoke test → 9 行) 与 E6 的 SC-8B matched (3 seeds, 待 INT-6 决定)。CPU 跑 E11(a)、E15。
  3. Day 3-4 (11-10 ~ 11-11)回复内审 (anti-defensive 检查、每个数回溯脚本、无 未实测值 数、无 avoid 列表措辞); 修订版 PDF 编译门控 + diff 高亮; 发布第一轮回复 + 修订版 PDF, 不等 GPU 结果; 明确标注 '若算力到位将在讨论期更新' 与 camera-ready 承诺。
  4. H200 job 启动当日 (预计 Day 3-7)同一 serve 顺序 E3 (3 h) → E5 (1.5 h) → E4a OB 重进化 (4 h) → E2 四 criterion 版 arm a (2-4 h) → E14 噪声带 (2-4 h)。E10 在 48 GB GPU 跑。
  5. Day 7-10 (11-14 ~ 11-17)以 follow-up comment 发布 E3/E5/E4a/E2/E14/E7/E6-SC 结果 (无论方向); E3 有利则把 hallucination rate 升格并更新附录; E5 修正数替换 Table 1 retrieval 行。向 R1 逐条确认五问已答; 向 R2 确认 task-disjoint 与 matched 数字已给。
  6. Day 10-13 (11-17 ~ 11-20)若额外的 H200 时间 到位: E4c τ² 两折版或 E6 OB-14B; 否则在回复中写明 camera-ready 承诺。给 AC summary: change log、修正后仍成立的三条、收窄的两条、新增证据、实验及算力条件。
  7. Day 14 (约 11-21, 假设 discussion 期两周, 以 OpenReview 实际截止为准)最终回复收尾; 修订版 PDF 定稿; 不再新增主张。

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R1 · 3Zsn 2 weak reject
Official Review of Submission28435 by Reviewer 3Zsn
Official Reviewby Reviewer 3Zsn23 Oct 2026 (modified: 06 Nov 2026)EveryoneRevisions
Paper Summary:
The paper proposes ReplayWorld, an LLM-based environment simulator for generating agent training data that keeps its knowledge of each environment as editable text "skills" instead of in model weights. The skills are learned by replaying logged trajectories and turning recurring prediction errors into edits, and the simulator can also run code and search the web while predicting. The authors introduce ReplayBench, a validated benchmark for next-observation prediction, and show that ReplayWorld beats its prompted base model there, that agents trained on its simulated trajectories improve on real benchmarks, and that the skills can be updated cheaply when an environment changes.

Presentation: 2: Generally understandable, but requires substantial effort in places.
Informativeness: 2: I learned something interesting or useful.
Soundness: 2: I have minor or fixable concerns about the paper’s soundness.
Critical Strengths:
ReplayBench is a solid, carefully checked benchmark and probably the paper's most lasting contribution. It covers eight environments and separately scores format, state tracking, factual content, response type, multi-step rollouts and whether an agent would act the same way. The validation is quite careful: three judges from different model families rank systems almost identically, the factuality judge agrees with human annotators about as well as they agree with each other, and the response-type classifier is checked against humans too. The field doesn't really have a shared foundation for LLM world models yet, so this matters regardless of the method.

Keeping environment knowledge as editable text skills is a sensible, practical design. The skills are readable and cheap to update, and the Ubuntu-to-Alpine experiment cleanly shows that one replay cycle on a handful of new traces adapts the simulator without retraining. Letting the simulator run code and search the web also handles cases a weights-only model can't.

Critical Weaknesses:
What skill evolution itself adds is small, and it isn't compared against simpler ways of using the same data.
Plain retrieval (putting a few similar logged transitions from other tasks in the prompt) gets within about a point of the full system. But it is left out of the main table and the agent-training comparison. The stated reason, that retrieval needs the corpus to already hold the transition, applies to ReplayWorld too, because its skills and reference traces come from the same corpus.
The gain mostly goes away with the 27B backbone. In Figure 6 (four of its curves come from re-runs), the chosen skill set is no better than no skills on three of the eight environments.
There is no "tools but no skills" ablation, so we don't know what skills add once search and code are there. The SBS and LPF ablations use one environment and are smaller than the rerun noise the paper itself reports. HiSkill is never ablated.
Test tasks may overlap the training corpus. For four benchmarks, other runs of the same test tasks are in the replay corpus (the τ²-bench test traces cover 49 of its 50 airline tasks). Reference traces outside WebShop and Mind2Web aren't said to be task-disjoint. Only ReplayWorld can read this material, so part of the gain could be memory of specific tasks rather than general knowledge.
The agent-training evidence is weaker than the headline says, and one headline number has no method behind it.
The "+12 points" is against the untrained model. The prompted simulator already gets most of that. ReplayWorld's own part is about two to three and a half points, from single runs without seeds.
The two simulators aren't trained the same way on some benchmarks, even though the paper says they are. SheetCopilot uses different queries and hyperparameters. The OfficeBench 14B baseline trains for only one epoch and barely moves off the untrained model. WebShop uses different filtering.
There is no comparison with trajectories from the real sandboxed environments, which is the natural upper bound. The AWM and EnvFactory rows in Table 3 are never explained. The RL result is one environment, one seed and a noisy curve.
The "hallucination rate on illegal actions" in the intro and Figures 1–2 isn't described anywhere, so there's no way to tell how it was measured.
Figure 1 compares ReplayWorld-27B with a weaker prompted model instead of its own backbone, so the gap looks much bigger than it is. The claim of beating prompted LLMs also skips the six proprietary prompted models that score higher.
Questions For Authors:
How is the illegal-action hallucination rate measured? Which environments, how were the illegal actions made, how many were there, and how is a "normal observation" judged?

What are the AWM and EnvFactory rows in Table 3? Did you train them on the same queries, or are they released checkpoints trained on other data?

How many trajectories end up in each simulator's training pool? What happens on SheetCopilot and OfficeBench-14B with matched queries and hyperparameters?

For the four fixed-task benchmarks, how many test traces have other runs of the same task in the corpus or the reference traces? How do the gains split between task-disjoint and overlapping traces?

Does the 27B model learn its own skills or reuse the 397B ones? And since both the test traces and the ActionPreserve agent come from Qwen3.5-397B, does that favor simulators built on the same model?

Flag For Ethics Review: No
Rating: 2: Weak rejection
Confidence: 3: I am familiar with this topic and its relevant literature.
R2 · cAzY 2 weak reject
Official Review of Submission28435 by Reviewer cAzY
Official Reviewby Reviewer cAzY22 Oct 2026 (modified: 06 Nov 2026)EveryoneRevisions
Paper Summary:
ReplayWorld represents environment knowledge as editable simulator skills and updates them by comparing predicted observations with recorded transitions. Semantic balanced sampling, learnability-prioritized filtering, and validation-based repertoire selection support skill evolution. The paper also introduces ReplayBench and evaluates downstream agents trained on simulated trajectories across eight environments, including adaptation to an operating-system change.

Presentation: 2: Generally understandable, but requires substantial effort in places.
Informativeness: 2: I learned something interesting or useful.
Soundness: 2: I have minor or fixable concerns about the paper’s soundness.
Critical Strengths:
Updating explicit simulator knowledge without changing model weights is a practical approach to maintaining environment simulators. The Ubuntu-to-Alpine experiment provides concrete evidence that replay can repair outdated environment assumptions.

The evaluation connects observation prediction with downstream agent performance across diverse environments. ReplayBench includes complementary criteria, multiple-judge checks, and human validation, making the benchmark a potentially useful contribution beyond the proposed simulator.

Critical Weaknesses:
Trajectory-level separation does not consistently establish task-level generalization. Appendix C.1 states that four environments contribute other executions of evaluation tasks to the replay corpus. This does not imply direct copying of evaluation trajectories, but the repertoire can still acquire task-specific knowledge. Consequently, results on these environments cannot cleanly establish generalization to unseen tasks.

Several comparisons do not isolate simulator quality. Appendix B documents differences in query pools, filtering, and some policy-training settings; observation-prediction budgets also differ across configurations. Moreover, retrieval-grounded prompting reaches 58.6 Overall versus ReplayWorld’s 59.4 (Appendix E.4), substantially narrowing the improvement over a strong experience-based alternative. The downstream gains over prompted-simulator training are also smaller than the headline gains over untrained agents. These issues make the incremental value of skill evolution difficult to quantify.

Questions For Authors:
Can you provide a task-disjoint evaluation for the environments whose replay corpora contain alternative executions of evaluation tasks?

Under matched query pools, filtering, training-token budgets, and inference capabilities, how much improvement remains over prompted and retrieval-grounded simulators?

Flag For Ethics Review: No
Rating: 2: Weak rejection
Confidence: 2: I have broad familiarity with this field but little or no direct research experience on this topic.
R3 · UkF2 3 weak accept
Official Review of Submission28435 by Reviewer UkF2
Official Reviewby Reviewer UkF221 Oct 2026 (modified: 06 Nov 2026)EveryoneRevisions
Paper Summary:
ReplayWorld builds an environment simulator by converting discrepancies between simulated and recorded observations into editable skills, without updating model weights. Its replay loop selects trajectories and revises skills. The paper introduces ReplayBench across eight environments and evaluates downstream agent training. Results show improvements over the prompted backbone.

Presentation: 3: Clear and easy to follow.
Informativeness: 1: I learned little or nothing new from this paper.
Soundness: 2: I have minor or fixable concerns about the paper’s soundness.
Critical Strengths:
Explicit skill updates offer a practical way to adapt simulators without retraining model weights, which is more adaptive and applicable to different scenarios.

Critical Weaknesses:
Trajectory separation does not ensure task separation. Four benchmarks contribute additional runs of evaluation tasks to the replay corpus, which causes the benchmark score to suffer from overfitting.
It is weird that GPT -6 Astra is worse than Opus 5, and some subdomains are worse than GPT-5.6 Sol, which makes the benchmark score not quite convincing.
Simple retrieval already scores 58.6 versus ReplayWorld's 59.4, which compromises the utility of the proposed ReplayWorld.
Questions For Authors:
See weakness.

Flag For Ethics Review: No
Rating: 3: Weak acceptance
Confidence: 4: I have substantial direct research experience on this topic.